New Zealand Heavy Metal Forum & Discussion

[Therapist]

I don't subscribe to his theories, but he was only out by a day on his last prediction.

Makes you think - Better safe than sorry.

Plus we need our resident skeptic to keep contributing to maintain a balance around here.

- Stay safe.

[Obzen]

andrew cocain says:
sweet
brought shit frm trademe sending mfrm chch taken ages
Ian Moir says:
oh...
andrew cocain says:
haarp caused earthquake
Ian Moir says:
haarp?
andrew cocain says:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Haarp-Cau ... 2457523446
Ian Moir says:
u gotta stop getting sucked into these conspiracy theories

[Rob]

i got that one also. did u watch that video. crazy huh!.

[Khaos_McDoom]

The SGU have a bit of a rant about Ken Ring and his wacky theories on their podcast this week,

http://hw.libsyn.com/p/c/d/f/cdf417d45c7fc168/skepticast2011-03-02.mp3?sid=03d65f620ad3b13a0af8f33dc8921b51&l_sid=19482&l_eid=&l_mid=2473587

[Burning Beard]

The SGU have a bit of a rant about Ken Ring and his wacky theories on their podcast this week,

http://hw.libsyn.com/p/c/d/f/cdf417d45c7fc168/skepticast2011-03-02.mp3?sid=03d65f620ad3b13a0af8f33dc8921b51&l_sid=19482&l_eid=&l_mid=2473587

Cheers for that buddy.

There's a local NZ monthly skeptic podcast. The guy that runs it is in the same magicians guild that Ken Ring is in and has used his powers there to effectively gag this guy from talking about Ken Ring anywhere ever. Nevermind, he has three other co-hosts who can, hahaha. And Ken goes on about media censorship.

[Khaos_McDoom]

There's a local NZ monthly skeptic podcast

What is it called? What is the web address? CUSP?

[Rob]

how do u feel about this guy BB... hmmmm ? skeptic or debunker?
http://video.abovetopsecret.com/video7884/UFO/

[Burning Beard]

how do u feel about this guy BB... hmmmm ? skeptic or debunker?
http://video.abovetopsecret.com/video7884/UFO/

Ugh, anything from abovetopsecret has got to be woo-woo, and Stanton Friedman (they spelled his name wrong by the way) I've come across many times before. Another woo-meister, an incompetent self-appointed researcher. I'll view the vid when I get time, shit's a bit crazy right now. Isn't he a proponent of the Barney Hill "abduction"? That one just has to be bogus so fuck knows what other garbage he promotes. At least he's acknowledged the Mieir photos are clearly fake.

[Burning Beard]

There's a local NZ monthly skeptic podcast

What is it called? What is the web address? CUSP?

That's the one. http://thecusp.org.nz/

[Burning Beard]

Just had my first wee tour around ChCh today catching one of the few running buses out to where my work is - in my IT guy's garage

[Burning Beard]

Okay so I had some time to kill... that Stanton Friedman video is just the same old dreck that bleevers shoot out at skeptics all the time. ***Wah wah wah, my research doesn't stand up to scrutiny. They're not looking for truth, they just want to say you're wrong*** Bollocks. Guys like Neil deGrasse Tyson (who he mentions) are true scientific skeptics - that is, they are open to solid evidence and are willing to be swayed by it.

And don't get me started on the garbage video footage underneath! If that doesn't scream bulldust then I don't know what does.

[Rob]

i watched that vid the guy made some great points. but then the further he explained him self. the more he contradicted his own motives for "opening his gob" even. so i lol'd thought u might like to see it also. if u hadn't

[Dead Kid]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4922125 ... th-threats

Mr Ring said he also feared he would be prosecuted for inciting a riot following his quake prediction.

"I've been virtually told by [ACC minister] Dr Nick Smith and Sir Peter Gluckman [the prime minister's scientific advisor] that I'm not qualified to put statements out about earthquakes. They will have me legally if I do that.

"Until they reverse that, I'm completely bound to silence. I don't want to go to jail.

"They said it was like calling out fire in a crowded theatre and that's against the law -- it's called the riot act, and inciting riot."

Good.

[Trendkill]

How is that good?
Better to have some predicitions than no predicitions
He should be able to say whatever he wants
If people want to freak out, tuff shit

[Dead Kid]

It's good because he's an embarrassment to the human race, and his unfounded predictions are annoying. It might be funny if he was doing it to freak people out, but he's just using loony theories to sell books.

[Burning Beard]

Better to have some predicitions than no predicitions

Not when it's an clown with no scientific credentials making the prediction.

[Trendkill]

Yeah thats true eh
I thought he had some accurate stuff, guess not...

[Burning Beard]

Yeah thats true eh
I thought he had some accurate stuff, guess not...

Accurate... as in if you sit in front of a dice, yell "SIX", then roll it 300 times, you're bound to get a few sixes.

[Dead Kid]

Can squid warn us of major quakes?

Sounds like they can do a lot better than clowns anyway.

[Burning Beard]

Can squid warn us of major quakes?

Interesting! Hopefully they probe into the correlation a bit more.

It may well turn out to be coincidence, but it's worth exploring I say. Could just be another case of "A happened before B, thefore A caused B" fallacy.

[Dead Kid]

:/ Before and after of Cashel St, in Chch CBD: